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Post subject: Pankratios Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:41 pm |
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All right, arlovski did loose to Rizzo and Ricco, But he was just a rookie, a young one at that, those guys wouldnt have a shot now, and yes i do know who Rodrigo Noguira is, overrated, just like when he fought Ricco a few years back, right after ricco got knocked out by sylvia, and ricco beat his ass the whole time and got screwed by a Pride Decision, Sylvia is overrated, not on the juice no more, I do think pride has better heavyweights and alot of talent at light heavyweight, I would like to see Chuck Liddell fight Vanderla or rematch Quinton Jackson, but i dont think Vedor, or any of the Pride Heavyweight can beat Arlovski, Vedor would be the only one, but not near the athlete, plus ive watched alot of his fights and he is defently can be taken down, Coleman, and Randlemen both got him down, and Fujita almost knocked him out, if Fujita can almost knock u out, u have no buisness be in there with arlovski
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Gurre
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:55 pm |
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He took Mirko the distance and beat him. Randelman and Coleman got submitted. Nogueira got beat twice. Sure, Fedor can be taken down, but do you really want him down? Do you really want to stand up with him in the first place? MMA isn't about being an athlete, it isn't about being strong. It's about having a nice body. It's about using what you have, it's about being smarter than your opponant, it's about getting the fight to where your strengths are what counts. That's what makes Fedor so great.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:21 pm |
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Obviously i exaggerated when i said that he has no buisness being in there with arlovski, but if he stood, i think he would get caught, he would have to ground and pound his way to a judges win, and im not sayin he cant, if he can ground and pound nogeria, he could clearly do it to arlovski, but i dont know if anyone can get arlovski down, just cause ricco did it, he was more of a boxer in those days, he is now a complete mma fighter, his sprawl is explosive, and like i said, fugita almost knocked fedor out, luck or not, arlovski hits a lot harder and more technical, i think he would get KO.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:23 pm |
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and if ur talking about nice bodies, Arlovski is ripped, 6'3, 250, and moves like he is a 200 pound man, being an athlete does have alot to do with it
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:30 pm |
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Also who thinks Forrest Griffith is going to beat Tito Ortiz, I like him, but Tito is gonna beat him up, he needs more fights under his belt, Tito is a bad man
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:13 am |
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forrest is a true soldier so if he can get tito frustrated he has a big chance of winning, like gurre said its all about getting the fight 2 were u want it and can outperform your opponent. But Tito will be his biggeset test yet, I´m really looking forward 2 this fight
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Gurre
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:26 am |
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I'm gonna take a deep breath.... there.... Have you ever heard of Mirko "CroCop" Filipovic? Former Muay Thai world champion, 3 time finalist in the k-1 GP and numerous other titles and awards. Probably one of the best strikers right now. Fe didn't do all too much damage to Fedor during the 20 minutes they where in the ring. I rank Mirko's striking higher than Arlovski's because Arlovski never has competed in k-1. And just to get things straight, Mirkoe left k-1 because of a contract dispute. Fedor is very wellrounded, and I don't think Arlovski is even close to being ready for him.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:48 am |
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Who has Arlovski beaten? Arlovski may look very good because he hasnt fought anyone with serious credentials put him against someone good and i think he will look average. I have watched all the UFCs and up to Pride 26 and i havent seen any evidence that Arlovski is the best in the world
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:09 am |
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hope u caught ur breathe, i know who crocop is, his striking is by far the most technical and explosive on the heavyweight division, but his submission skills are not up to par, so vedor just had to ground and pound, not worry about submission, with arlovski, u gotta worry, if vedor would have stood the whole time with crocop, he would have got caught, my point is he will have to stand with arlovski, arlovski has better takedown defence than crocop and is about 30 pounds bigger, plus way more well rounded than crocop, oh by the way ask crocop about Vanderla, Nogeria, and Hunt, u think any of those guys can beat arlovski, doubt it, maybe hunt, those guys all beat crocop, Vanderla should have gotten a decision, but it was old school rules
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:13 am |
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Another thing, u guys keep saying he hasent fought anyone good, i believe buenatello was ranked, sylvia was ranked, and i think at the time freeman was ranked, and cabbage was in the top 10 before he took his beating, ufc heavyweights r kinda weak right now, Arlovski should go to pride, it would be awsome, but he has fought some badasses, i bet buenatello could fight in pride, same with freeman or cabbage, and (excuse spelling)Vladamir Matushanko was considered a threat for the belt when he got KO, he has fought good fighters, just not big names
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:21 am |
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i cant wait to see Griffith fight Tito, i have to say, ive seen tito fight Cote and i had really good tickets to watch his fight against Belfort, he is the only one that has a shot at chuck, now that Randy out, who else can beat chuck, certainly not babalu, can anybody beat chuck?Also when does quinton jackson fight again, havent seen him since he got beat down by rua
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:33 am |
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I dont think pride would entertain Buentello or Cabbage neither imo are good enough for that level of competition. Buentello shouldnt even be in UFC. Arlovski hasnt got the grappling skills of Fedor at the moment he is no 1 ranked in the world @ sambo and no one out there including Nog has subbed him.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:49 pm |
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Seriously, I'm gonna start deleting these bullshit posts if they continue. famedbauwow if you don't have anything smart to say that don't. I try to write as fairly as I can about fighters. To be honest, if Buentello was that good why hasn't the biggest organisation in the world picked him up? Titles aren't everything that counts. Please stop nuthugging.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:52 pm |
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famedbauwow wrote: i bet buenatello could fight in pride
that dosent have to mean he is good.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:13 pm |
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u guys r so biest to pride its kinda funny, bull shit posts, im just tryin to give arlovski some props, i know all about pride, i have a shit ton of there dvds, obviously they have better heavyweights, arlovski is just as big, faster, better stand up combanations, and i havent seen anyone take him down since hes peaked, if u think vedor can stand with arlovski, u need to watch more film, i just dont think he can get arlovski down, and i think arlovski would win a stand up war with vedor, imean randy coture is the best wrestler at 205 and he couldn't get chuck down,neither could tito, i just dont c vedor getting him down, if he could, he would win
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