Yeah i saw that show. It was pretty awesome. I like how they show what does the most damage. The knee in the Thai clinch.

Ok, so this article really interests me... I would like to know exactly how to use the rolling pin on my shins, and what other exercise your friend mentioned when you spoke to him. Idon't really want to get into the argument above, I just want to know how the rolling pin was used, i.e. type of pin etc. For others who might be interested, in my style of Karate we also use the Muay Thai type of kicks, and we used them a great deal. Hitting to the thighs that is... Long ago, and am 50 years old one of our Shihans was known to have shins of steel, he could break anything with those shins... Anyway he used a rolling pin, and hit a thin red bag that was full of sand, and was as hard as a rock. Trust me, not many people hit it... Ofcourse except the few... The hardcore few... but the ones that did, were the absolute best fighters in the Dojo. Period.. I have bumped into a few of them throughout the years, and we all seem to have had the same problems with our knees, but not one of them complained about their shins. So what type of rolling pin do I use?

Elcid, in my Kung Fu class we do a bunch of body conditioning. We condition our hands, abs, arms, shins, thighs etc. I started using a piece of 1" PVC pipe wrapped in duct tape. I would roll the PCV up and down my shin and also bang on my shins a bit on the inside, front, and outside of the shin. Once my shins could handle that easily I used a piece of PVC that was not covered in anything repeating the above steps. I pretty much have no nerves in my shins and thighs now but hey I can kick the $h!t out of about anything and take a h3ll of a hit to my legs now....after a couple years of this conditioning......

hope this helps

AWesome! Now this is the type of stuff that us long time Karatekas like talking about. I started going back a bit in my head, and one of the things that I remember a lot of us doing was getting a woman hose, cut it to a length we wanted, then tying one end of it, and filling it up with sand. We made it so that it almost was the length of a club. We then wraped the entire thing with black shinny electric tape. We then used it as a portable kicking and punching Makiwara. For the shins, we basically hit our shins with it. It actually did not hurt at all really because the sand gave way when you hit, but after while it got your shins really strong. I really believe though that the thin red solid as a rock sand bag was the ticket. Thanks for getting back to me. OSU!

uhn...so many pages to read through, from past experience, and a coupla studies, the reason for kicking a heavy punchbag/sandbag, is that the density of the shin bone is increased, instead of the nerves being killed off.
i have a series of mild lumps in my shin bone from me not wearing shin pads while sparring a few years back (the bone becomes bruised, which is painful if touched and lasts much longer than a flesh bruise) once it heals, a lump of very dense bone forms there. i cant remeber the correct medical term for it though.. perhaps someone could tell me.

this might put every1 to rest

ive jus stared to learn muay thai from my girlfriends dad he was a champ in laos and his brother was aus champ. he said muay thai f#$ks your legs up when you get older he is now 51 and moves like a 20yr old. kicking a bag and pads is how he trained this shins.

i used to do boxing and got 2 novice state tittles out of it and i used to do something called body conditioning. it involves a medicine ball being thrown and slammed into your abs/obliques when laying down this seemed to make blows to the body really easy to take.

hmm the link didnt appear for some reason

http://www.ironlife.com/mag/issue6/shin.shtml

insert this after i rite "this might put every1 to rest"

I know this was posted a long time ago but I feel I have to comment.

In my opinion Ste Bell you are correct and Gurre you are wrong plain and simple.

Here are my reasons:

- Nerves send signals to your brain telling us there is a problem. By killing or temp killing these nerves we don't know if there is a problem or not. For training I can see Gurre your point; however, regarding living your life that is a different story entirely.

To debate this I'll look at the other side. No nerves equals no pain; this is great. I just broke my tibia and I don't know it. I can keep fighting so what is the problem? I don't hurt any.

I see a real problem here. Dude we just broke a bone and don't even know. Long term affects are greater potential for arthritis or other issues down the road.

Here is a true example. I am 33 years old now in 2008. I have studied the below styles. Yes before I get a number of comments no I never leveled to black belt. I had no desire to. I really did this for fun and to stay active. I don’t compete any longer I just box now for fun in my basement with my heavy bag, speed bag and slip bag while trying to ignore my wife’s nagging

To make a long story short I have the highest pain tolerance level you’ll ever find. I’m not bragging it’s just a fact and I would gladly give it back if I could. Currently I have a level 3 sprain and a torn tendon in my driving foot. The entire foot is black and blue not just part of it. I can put full pressure on it and still walk. I don’t because I know this is bad so I use crutches. In any case when I did do kung fu my Si-Fu taught pressure points. I don’t feel them at all so he never really used me as an example. One day he did. He used the pressure point right under my arm pit. I felt nothing. Picked another student and down they went in a second. This is good right? WRONG! Two days later I had the black and blue markings you would have though I was hit by a car.

Tore my roator cuf and dislocated it and did not even know till I started to feel a little discomfet.

Case in point just because you don’t feel pain does not mean you are not obtaining damage

choi la foot kung fu = Blue Sash and 3 strips – brown was next
Gracie jujitsu – part of the kung fu (just different instructor)
Shotokan = Purple Belt and 3 strips
Tae Kwon Do G= Green Belt
Tang Soo do = Orange Belt
Boxing (used practice with a friend who retired from pro-circuit)
Competed in college and placed first in 1997 CT state WTF state championship in my weight class.

I have some wooden sticks I tap away at my shins, knees, elbows and forearms with. After doing this I ice and rest them. Its really helped out, good luck!